>> tonight the pre-release. two appearances, i'll be in dayton, ohio and then elkhart, indiana on saturday with katie pavlich. thanks for watching. see you. >> bill: fox news alert now. the economy is on fire. the october jobs number just out. it shows solid growth. we added 128,000 jobs last month which is much higher than expected. you had a labor strike as well. unemployment ticking up 3.6% still near a 50-year low. we'll likely hear from the president. he tweeted a moment ago. he has a rally later tonight in mississippi. the revision for the two months higher also. first, however, here is another number for you, $52 trillion is how much senator elizabeth warren's medicare for all plan will cost. good morning, everybody. i'm bill hemmer. you almost made it. how are we doing?

nice to see you. good morning to you. >> sandra: good morning, everyone. i'm sandra smith. her plan is out saying the u.s. healthcare system is already spending $52 trillion and that her plan will target the wealthiest americans and large corporations to pay for it. >> bill: she insists there will be no hike by the middle class. a claim that will be challenged. we have the story live in washington >> the $52 trillion figure of the plan is stunning. the u.s. debt stands at $22 trillion. her health plan would cost more than twice that. she has avoided details how taxpayers would foot the bill. fox news obtained a copy of the planned and she released it herself. maintains the middle class wouldn't face any additional tax burden. she acknowledged it could put million else of people out of work. >> an economist at the

university told us earlier it could result in two million jobs lost. those would be mostly administrative positions, insurers, doctor's offices. >> i agree. it's part of the cost issue and should be part of a cost plan. >> her plan lays out how costs can be covered through a mix of federal and state spending on medicare and medicaid along with roughly $20 trillion in taxes on employers, financial transactions, the ultrawealthy, large corporations and more. that would include $9 trillion in new medicare taxes on employers over the next 10 years. economists say the costs are usually passed on in the form of higher prices and reduced wages. just as bernie sanders does, warren argues many costs already are being spent in the forms of premiums, deductibles and other expenses in the private insurance market. a system she calls greedy.

>> that system makes $23 billion in profit last year after all of the executive salaries, all the administrative people and the fancy glass office buildings they build. how did they make those profits? think about it. >> now that it's out, the plan is sure to come under fire from other primary competitors who see a place for the private insurance market. >> bill: we'll go through this together. thank you, doug mcelway in washington thank you, sir. >> sandra: divided house improving rules for the impeachment inquiry by a near party line vote yesterday as president trump considers new ways to go on defense including a fire side chat where he would read the letter to the people. they claim victory after a key witness yesterday. >> up to nancy pelosi and adam schiff are making up the rules as they go along. tried to pass the resolution

today and put a ribbon on the sham of a process. >> none of us came to congress to impeach this president or any president. but duty now requires that we investigate the serious wrongdoing that is hiding in plain sight. >> if this is calling our bluff maybe they didn't hear what we were asking for. unless you have your mind made up on what you want. >> sandra: john ratcliffe has been in those depositions and will join us in a moment. first here is catherine herridge live in washington good morning. >> good morning. this witness an outgoing national security council officials seemed to have a sixth sense about the july 25 phone call between president trump and the ukraine president telling investigators he thought it would leak giving washington's polarized environment and morrison said i want to be clear i was not concerned that anything illegal

was discussed. morrison sat on the national security council and has direct knowledge of the phone call and significantly after allegations the white house released transcript was tampered with morrison said to the best of my recollection the memorandum of the conversation accurately and completely reflects the substance of the call. after the call i asked the legal counsel to review it. he had no reason to believe the ukrainians knew until the aid was suspended. it was not until early september morrison said that he had reason to believe that the aide was tied to a public statement from ukraine. reopening the investigation into the energy firm where hunter biden sat on the board. that aid was ultimately released just days later. important to note a sours familiar with the deposition he

undercut colonel vindman saying he was warned about vindman's judgment on at least one occasion morrison said vindman, who began his army service two decades ago went outside the chain of command specifically on ukraine. >> sandra: catherine herridge in washington >> bill: let's bring in congressman john ratcliffe involved in nearly all the interviews. thank you for coming back. i want to try to move this forward. we believe public hearings will happen. perhaps within two weeks. who is the strongest witness for adam schiff? who would he call first? >> wouldn't be adam schiff even though he is a material witness. i don't know who the democrats would bring forward because there hasn't been any witness who has credibly put forth any information that would support that something illegal happened on the call. as catherine herridge just reported, tim morrison was just a latest to confirm there was nothing illegal or improper. witness after witness that the

democrats have brought in have expressed concerns about the policy of donald trump but can't articulate any high crime for impeachable offense. i'm eager for a public hearing. i'm eager for the public viewing of what has been happening behind closed doors. and again, adam schiff ought to be the first witness to testify as a material fact witness. >> bill: you just answered who you would call first. what i'm trying to drive at who makes their case the best? you've heard all the evidence so far. who is it? >> well again, think about it this way, bill. yesterday democrats passed a resolution to give chairman schiff the most authority in the impeachment process moving forward. adam schiff is someone who has tried to impeach the president now three times. the first time he accused the president of treason and said he had evidence to support collusion with russia that

wasn't true. then he said we should impeach the president because he obstructed justice and promised bob mueller would breathe life into that until mueller said it was under a burden of proof that didn't exist. fake impeachment effort three surrounded by a whistleblower who first met with that's right, the staff of chairman schiff. the details of that haven't been released. chairman schiff won't release the inspector general's sworn testimony which will confirm the contacts between chairman schiff and the whistleblower. it's like this, bill. if we have a trial, the person who planted fake evidence shouldn't be the one ruling on the admissibility of fake evidence. >> bill: you are making the case there was nothing illegal. a question of policy disputes and if that's the case the american people will decide whether or not they think something was untoward. does it appear, however, the ship has sailed and democrats in the house will impeach this

president? >> i think so. unfortunately you saw it yesterday. only two democrats had the courage to really look at the facts here and say listen, we've got to stop trying to impeach this guy and get on with the business of the american people. unfortunately the democrats are lining up behind their leadership but at the end of the day the truth will defend itself. again, when we have a public hearing of this there is nothing to this. and the american people will see that. donald trump is not the guilty one. >> bill: two more things. mike mccaul said the whistleblower was complicit with adam schiff. if that is true, can you prove it in a public hearing? >> we can if we can access to either sworn testimony of the whistleblower or chairman schiff and his staff. again, what the people need to understand is that this impeachment process didn't start by a whistleblower going to the inspector general of the

intelligence community. it started by that person going to chairman schiff's staff, talking with them and then going to the inspector general. the details of that, bill, when they met, what they talked about, whether they were directed, whether it was coordinated will tell us whether or not this impeachment effort was orchestrated or organic. those are material facts and adam schiff is one of the folks that has knowledge of those relevant facts and we ought to have the opportunity to cross-examine him. >> bill: the president suggested he would have a fireside chat of sorts to read the transcript aloud to the american people. think that's a good idea? >> i don't think the president should have to do that. i'm always happy when the president addresses the american people directly but we shouldn't be wasting any more time on this. no democrat can even articulate a high crime or impeachable offense here. they've defaulted to some sort of abuse of power where they can't establish a quid pro quo involving the withholding of

military aid or security assistance. they just keep articulating they think the president did something wrong. we shouldn't be wasting our time on this and the american people shouldn't have to watch this. >> bill: thank you for your time, sir. republican from texas. thanks for coming in. more to come on this certainly. democratic senator chris coons joins us next hour to give us the democratic side on all this and hear from the white house today, press secretary stephanie grisham will be here live at 11:30 eastern time. stand by. >> sandra: meanwhile an explosive new wildfire in california forcing thousands from their homes just north of los angeles. we'll be on the ground with that. >> bill: bernie sanders trying to hit joe biden where it hurts. the vermont senator saying he is losing support from the working class america. we'll dig into that coming up here. >> sandra: president trump saying goodbye new york city and hello florida. we'll tell you why next.

>> sandra: four people dead after a late night shooting at a halloween party in northern california. reports of a shooting came in around 11:00 at night in a quiet community near the bay area. a neighbor says the house was rented out on airbnb and 30 to 50 people were seen leaving the party. authorities search for a suspect. >> bill: medicare for all plan is out by elizabeth warren coming with a hefty price tag, $52 trillion. chris stirewalt how will you pay for that? >> i don't have that kind of money. i can't do it. >> bill: broad strokes here now. medicare taxes on employers, extension to the wealth tax plan, better enforcement of current tax laws. your witness, how does it go? >> it won't fly, oroville.

look, here is elizabeth warren's big problem. we talk how there are two kinds of errors or gaps or problems a candidacy can have. one are the kind that undercut a core principle. the other that reinforces a negative. she has badly undercut herself with the debacle of a health insurance plan roll-out. she is the candidate is supposed to be so rigorous, thorough and specific and we've heard hosanna how great she is at the details. she fudges on this thing and rolls out a plan that is so expensive and by the way -- and is partly funded through confiscation of existing wealth that there is not any kind of precedent for inside our constitutional system. it's way over the edge. >> bill: i can hear the choir singing giving that answer.

$20 trillion higher than bernie sanders, a mixture how you pay for it. she makes the point we spend that money on healthcare anyway. get to that. >> actually what makes this a political non-starter. the thing that makes it such a bad political idea, it rests on the idea of taking away people's existing health insurance. most americans are insured through work. taking away people's private insurance, forcing them to medicare is not something that americans are going to want and they would not enjoy the idea of having their employers dump them into a government-run health system. it is politically toxic and reflection of a campaign that much like we saw when she rolled out her native american dna test what a disaster that was. this is elizabeth warren doing it again. >> bill: i have more. joe biden's latest dig on bernie sanders medicare for all and he returns serve. first the sound bite from joe biden. roll this and give it a listen.

>> bernie apparently made a comment today about he was ready to announce his plan. there is no one that i've observed that suggests there is any possibility of paying for medicare for all without radical increase in taxes across the board. >> bill: that from iowa. are you still awake? to return serve joe biden is hit by bernie sanders. you shouldn't accept any money from a super pac. people can't trust you. it's on, i guess, chris, huh? >> as bernie sanders is out there muttering into his crackling oath bran about the unfairness of all this, that's fine. the reality is he is a better punching bag for biden than warren s right? warren -- bernie sanders is more of a marginal figure and self-identified socialist and has the support of other socialists. if he goes after warren it's difficult. that's different. what he can do is he can attack

sanders on the same things that warren stands for without having to engage in direct combat with his second place candidate. >> bill: commander-in-chief is moving to florida officially. no longer new york will be his official home. in return governor cuomo says it is not like real donald trump paid taxes anyway. good riddance. he is all yours florida. why is he doing this? if you look at the tweet from last night it's apparent that he very much likes the white house and wants to hold onto a second term. you remember the post office two weeks ago i believe it was floated they might sell that. there is a theory here, chris, perhaps you sell trump tower in fifth avenue. if you start divesting you go back to the doral decision that was reversed and you could almost see a come to jesus moment where he said if i'll hit joe biden on this stuff i can't be accused of it, either.

i need to get away from it. what do you believe is the strategy here? >> there is a lot of truth in what you say and also this. he is facing prosecution in new york. he has faced legal difficulties in washington, d.c. these are cities that are hostile to him and politically opposite to him. he would like to probably limit his exposure in places like washington and new york. and have all of his eggs in the basket in florida where his friend and ally ron desantis is governor and a more republican state. >> bill: if you are trying to evade taxes as democrats have alleged, they can still go after you no matter what state you live in. >> true fact. florida has better weather. >> bill: see you soon. chris stirewalt. have a great weekend. here is sandra. >> sandra: it might be friday. there is brand-new reaction after a bold move from twitter banning all political ads just in time for the 2020 elections.

conservatives are crying censorship. democrats want facebook to follow suit. howie kurtz is on deck and will join us on that. >> bill: a shocking hit and run caught on video. man survived but the l.a.p.d. wants help to find that driver. here, it all starts with a simple...

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reward for information and we'll update you on the bicyclist. >> sandra: hard to watch. twitter's ban on political ads sparking a firestorm. the trump campaign accusing jack dorsey of trying to silence conservatives. democrats are pressuring facebook to follow twitter's lead. let's bring in howie kurtz and host of "media buzz". happy friday. we're seeing two very different approaches to two of the biggest names and voices in silicon valley. >> it's fascinating. both twitter and facebook are running away from having to deal with political ads. twitter saying we won't run any ads. facebook saying we'll run any ads no matter what the content. they're afraid of the controversy having to make judgments on these murky ads and throwing up their hands and saying not our problem, somebody else figure it out. >> sandra: mark zuckerberg sat down with dana perino last month and here he was

responding to his more relaxed policy on all of it. >> my belief is that in a democracy i don't think we want private companies sensoring politicians. i generally believe as a principle people should decide what's credible and what they want to believe and who they want to vote for. >> sandra: now he is getting pressure from democrats to change his mind on the issue and follow twitter's lead. >> some of his own employees have protested it. twitter may have enjoyed throwing a jab at mark zuckerberg not accepting any money. facebook still gets to rake in all the cash. every local tv station, every network has to grapple with this in terms of commercials and do we accept them or not. these enormously social media giants say we're just tech companies and we can't make these judgments. yeah, you can. you hire a bunch of journalists who draw lines and say

exaggeration and okay, falsehoods are not. they don't want to go there. >> sandra: jack dorsey fired back on twitter over this decision saying it is not about free expression and paying for increase the reach of political speech has significant ramifications that today's democratic infrastructure may not be prepared to handle. it is worth stepping back in order to address. so fair to say it is on between these two. zuckerberg versus dorsey, howie. >> very much so. they're very much rivals in this field and others. look, donald trump has made very clear that they view both twitter and facebook at biased against conservatives and both companies have acknowledged this is a problem they have to combat. but trump campaign doesn't spend hardly anything on twitter ads. why should he? he has 60 million followers. they drufrmd money on facebook ads. people on the right the end to see ad spending as a counter

weight to what they view as the left leaning networks. by the way, these companies make judgments all the time about hate speech, bullying, russian disinformation, what's allowed and what's not allowed. they don't want to deal with it when it comes to advertising. >> sandra: twitter just walked away from hundreds of millions of dollars in potential revenue. another attempt to silence conservatives since twitter, knowing president trump has the most sophisticated. 2016 trump changed the game and the use of social media. >> twitter's ban extends to democrats and liberal groups. we aren't just talking about campaigns and candidates. we're talking about issue ads from advocacy groups. in planned parenthood wants to

put out an ad, will it be banned? the trump campaign is getting free publicity by fighting this fight. donald trump is such a commanding presence on twitter and drives so much news. what we all talk about every day with his tweets which don't cost any money. >> sandra: see if zuckerberg bows to that pressure or not. >> bill: isis has a new leader. breaking news after the takedown of al-baghdadi. the new terror leader has a message for the united states and we'll get to that in a moment. >> sandra: house democrats shifting impeachment into high gear. can it go the distance without any bipartisan support? rush limbaugh does not think so. >> the democrats have nothing to figure out. they are making it up. it is fully, wholly manufactured. the democrats so immersed in

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>> sandra: fox news alert now. a new employment report just out. 128,000 jobs added in october. easily topping expectations. even with a general motors strike. the unemployment rate did tick up slightly to 3.6% but it is still sitting near a 50-year low. so that is the news. the market is reacting favorably to that. august and september revisions jobs added was revised significantly higher, the market liking that. >> bill: a lot of good news in this. folks coming out of the woodwork to look for employment, too. if you want a job, you can get one right now. >> sandra: market likes it. >> bill: indeed. overseas, islamic states naming a new leader. the successor warning americans

that isis is expanding while president trump touts the mission as a success. on the radio yesterday he said the following. >> these people we have our soldiers, our military is by far the greatest in the world. there is nothing close. they went in and he didn't know what hit him. he didn't know. he was very well protected. they broke through like they were dealing with children. >> bill: radio interview yesterday. lucas tomlinson live from the pentagon with more. what have you learned? >> not long after al-baghdadi killed and body dumped in the sea isis named a new leader. not much is known about him. the head of u.s. forces in the middle east warned isis remains a threat. >> we suspect they'll try some form of retribution attack and we are postured and prepared for that.

but we should recognize that again since it's an ideology you won't be able to completely stamp it out. >> a new isis spokesman said the terrorist group is expanding. the next isis spokesman was killed after al-baghdadi. pentagon officials say they'll keep killing isis fighters wherever they are just like these enemy fighters were killed by u.s. apache gun ships during the raid on al-baghdadi's isolated compound. the general said a significant amount of isis intelligence was taken by the assault force. not likely the new isis leader will make personal appearance when the group controlled the area a size of ohio. ben sass had this to say about the new isis leader.

we killed the last leader who ran isis, let's go get another one. that probably means more killing. >> sandra: republicans -- >> i don't know who the democrats would bring forward because there hasn't been any witness who has credibly put forth any information that would support that something illegal happened on the call. the democrats are lining up behind their leadership. at the end of the day the truth will defend itself. >> sandra: republicans seizing on the testimony of national security council official morrison who admitted he was not concerned about anything illegal being discussed on president trump's phone call with the leader of ukraine. but democrats saying morrison confirmed there was a quid pro quo. let's bring in guy lewis, former u.s. attorney. good morning to you. how can each party be putting forth two completely different stories based on what they heard from that witness?

>> great question, sandra. the short answer is because this is purely political. it has virtually nothing to do with the actual evidence. let's go back to what the constitution requires for impeachment. the constitution requires treason, bribery, high crimes and misdemeanors. and they said that for a reason because impeachment is basically a political death warrant. so they didn't approach this thing in a cavalier way in terms of either the evidence, the theory that you are advocating or the law that you are following. unfortunately this process doesn't hold up to the smell test. >> sandra: the way mark meadows framed what they did here from that witness yesterday. >> an outstanding witness for our side. what i said earlier today is if the democrats were sucking lemons, the more he testified,

the more they puckered up with their lips where they started to lock at this, they couldn't believe what they were hearing. you can't have an impeachable offense if it wasn't a deliverable. hour after hour today it got worse and worse for my democrat colleagues. >> sandra: the process will now continue, guy. we'll see likely public hearings in the coming weeks, more witnesses called forth. what are your expectations over what the days and weeks to come look like? >> sandra, about eight witnesses i think are on the list for next week and they are still trying to work these rules out. the document that was passed yesterday gives adam schiff in essence the lead prosecutor almost unfettered power in terms of what information gets released, what documents get subpoenaed,. the -- and what witnesses get subpoenaeded.

it's a matter of fairness. the american people and the senate who will be listening closely and if it gets this far they try this case, they are -- the american people are focused on fairness. is it fair? is the process fair? and listen, i've tried a lot of cases as a prosecutor and defense lawyer and i've seen juries acquit over and over and over again when they perceive the process is not fair. >> sandra: i was listening to steve scalise from louisiana this morning. he was making the point that even if this does go to judiciary, that there is veto power by the chairman there. so what ultimate powers does this give the president when you talk about fairness and what he and his team will and will not be able to do? >> that's why you are seeing the president really aggressively defend this thing. frankly, i think personally i think they need to focus on

exactly what tim morrison said yesterday in the hearing. there was nothing -- there were dozens of people on this call listening and there was nothing illegal discussed. there was not a bribe. this was not a quid pro quo. this was nothing more than the president saying hey, i'm concerned about corruption and i think you need to investigate corruption and oh by the way, just because your last name is biden, that doesn't give you some kind of get out of jail free card so you can do whatever you want, walk away and not worry about the consequences. >> sandra: talking about the unprecedented nature we saw as far as this vote yesterday. you throw up the numbers of the screen of the vote. none of the 194 house republicans voted in favor of this resolution to formalize the impeachment inquiry. for the same process during the

nixon 177 republicans supported the impeachment investigation. clinton days, 31 democrats broke with the president to support the impeachment investigation. you look at the fact that not even one of those 194 republicans. what does that tell you about the precedent and the historical press tent that we're seeing for this? >> as a trial lawyer, as a former prosecutor, that tells me that facts matter. facts matter. if i don't have the facts on my side as a prosecutor, i didn't go forward. if i knew at the very outset before i even indicted and tried to prosecute the case that the jury was going to acquit, i didn't do it just as a show trial. i actually went back and looked carefully, thoughtfully at the facts and am i on the right page here? ultimately what it tells me and i think ultimately what it will tell the american people is that this really is about politics and it is not about a

legitimate impeachment. >> sandra: good to get your take on things this morning. we'll have reaction and analysis from both sides of the aisle. we appreciate it, guy lewis, thank you. >> bill: halloween spirit with a flash mob performance. check it out. the dance team surprised classmates with smooth moves in the hallway. assistant principal got it on camera and posted it online and it went viral. nicely done. here we go. >> sandra: brings everyone together, good dance in the hallways right by the lockers. >> bill: halloween breaks down barriers and walls and stop people walking around. >> sandra: we should be the dance in the greenroom for our post show meeting. >> bill: do you think it would go viral? all the wrong reasons. >> sandra: all right, thank you. next the family of an american man appealing for help saying he is being held and tortured in lebanese jail. one of his daughters and the

family's attorney will join us live next. >> he was an innocent man and he didn't -- he didn't -- he doesn't have anything to fear that we don't trust the judicial system in lebanon. we don't trust the corrupted government. newday usa can help you refinance your mortgage and save thousands a year. i urge you to call newday usa now.

my team's working overtime to make sure every veteran can refinance now to save $2000 every year >> bill: american man jailed in lesbian man as a newspaper says he is being held on war crimes and his family says he is being held without charges and claim he has been tortured. joining me now is his daughter and their attorney. i want to get the story from you. he was accused of torturing hezbollah prisoners more than 20 years ago. went back to beirut for the first time in 20 years. what kind of contact have you had with him lately? >> he lately was able to call

us on the phone for the first time in almost two months. >> bill: and why did he go back after being away for 20 years? >> he went back solely for a family reunion. he hasn't seen his family for 20 years. his brother is 63 years old. his parents died without him saying his last goodbyes. his nephew who r died a couple years ago also without him saying goodbye. solely he went to see his family after 20 years and he was afraid they would die, his brother and sister without him saying his last goodbyes. >> bill: what do you say to the allegations he is accused of torturing people 20 years ago? what is your reaction on that? >> we totally believe that all these allegations are fabricated. he is being illegally detained. there is no charges against him whatsoever. he is being used as a political

football and we really need to get him back to his family as soon as possible before it is too late. >> bill: you claim he has been tortured himself in a jail in lebanon. what proof do you have for that? >> yes. well, after he was -- after he went to pick up his passport from the lebanese general security, it was a trap set up for him. he went in and never got out. and for the 24 hours -- for the first 24 hours even the u.s. embassy did not know where his location is. he was tortured, beaten and we have medical reports that say that he was forced to sign documents without reading, false documents and when he didn't and when he refused, they tortured him and beat him up. until the embassy got involved and after 24 hours he was then transferred to the military jail. >> bill: he is in a military jail moved to a different

prison. what is your best contact in the u.s. government? an appeal to the state department or do you go higher than that to the white house? >> right now i'm asking for president trump to join us in this fight. i know he is aware of the corruption going on in lebanon. i know if he can fight with us he can bring my dad back home to his family and to the country he loves. >> bill: what message would he have to president trump to try and gain his release? we have a picture here that shows the two men together. i think it was three years ago perhaps in new hampshire on the campaign of 2016. how did that come about? >> yes. he is a supporter for president trump right when president trump was aa candidate for the president. he loves and supports him fully. we ask right now president trump to help us bring him home. >> bill: how are you doing, celine?

>> well, at this point i'm very concerned about his health. we really need to get him back here as soon as possible. we call on the president to take the lead on this. we definitely -- really need the president to get involved at this time in order to make sure he gets back as soon as possible. >> bill: i'm about out of time here. guila, how are you doing? >> not doing good. my dad lost over 40 pounds in less than two months. the last time we talked to him he started crying on the phone. i want him back here with us before thanksgiving. i'm begging for anyone who can help and specifically president trump to take the lead on this. >> bill: thank you, ladies. let's hope for the best. thank you for telling your story today. my best to both of you. >> sandra: fox news alert now an explosive new wildfire in southern california forcing people from their homes in ventura county as crews work

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>> sandra: another major fire breaking out north of los angeles forcing 7,000 people from their homes on halloween night in ventura county. firefighters saying where it started gave them time to get people to safety. christina coleman has a live report on that for us. christina. not sure christina has us there. she will bring us a live report when she is able. can you hear me? >> we're here at a country club where hills are on fire right now. the flames lit up these hills overnight. the maria fire started around

6:30 local time around this area on south mountain just north of los angeles. the fire burned 8300 acres so far. mandatory evacuations are in place for about 7500 people. wind gusts of up to 35 miles an hour fueled this fire. it is threatening 1800 structures around the community of somis. the ranchs have been threatened. animals can be held at the ventura county fairgrounds. two structures lost. 400 firefighters have been attacking this blaze by land and with helicopters. but their aerial efforts were stopped twice by someone flying a drone. >> our firefighting aerial efforts were someone flying an unmanned aerial system in the area, a small drone looking at photography of the fire.

this created quite a dangerous situation. not only illegal, but it hampers our firefighting efforts. >> crews have been able to get the other wildfires under control. unknown when people can return here because of this fire going strong right now. >> sandra: stay safe. thank you. >> bill: two big stories this hour coming up first senator elizabeth warren's long-awaited medicare for all plan is out. it will cost a whopping, $52 trillion over 10 years. a-team is rearing to go. we have them on deck. check it out next. you $2,000 every year. and once you refinance, the savings are automatic. thanks to your va streamline refi benefit, at newday there's no income verification, no appraisal, and no out of pocket costs.

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hour coming at you now. the a-team straight ahead on stand by. first mike emanuel kicks it off live on the hill. >> fascinating in that new poll of six battleground states. voters there do support the house impeachment inquiry let's take a look at some of the numbers. the poll says across those six states by 52-44 voters back the impeachment probe. closest is florida. 49-44 in favor of at least investigating the whistleblower complaint. polster notes significance. those six states could potentially decide next year's election. on capitol hill the resolution that set the procedures heading to a more public phase passed yesterday without a single republican vote. it was 232-196. democrats and one independent voting in favor leading republicans say the new rules are not fair to president trump and the gop. >> if it goes to the judiciary committee the chairman still

has full discretion to deny, to veto witnesses. veto power by the chairman never has happened before. didn't happen under clinton or nixon. >> how intelligence chair adam schiff responded to the criticism the democrats could block witnesses that republicans want. >> we have concerns that they will propose a bunch of witnesses that have no bearing that with smear opponents and other purposes. to the contrary that what they've been saying the minority did not have the right to call witnesses on their own unilaterally for nixon or clinton. >> tim morrison said i want to be clear, i was not concerned that anything illegal was discussed to the best of my recollection, the memorandum of the conversation accurately and completely reflects the

substance of the call. now to be fair those quotes are from the opening statement. we don't know the nature of his hours of testimony. bill and sandra. >> bill: mike emanuel from the hill. >> sandra: let's bring in the a-team. juan williams is here, david asman anchor of bulls and bears and chief national correspondent ed henry. i feel like i'm here for fight night. juan, start things off. how do you think the day went yesterday? >> the day went well for democrats who felt that you know what? only two of the democrats varied from support for the impeachment inquiry. for republicans it was total unity and total opposition to the inquiry. but i think the argument -- the larger argument is democrats saying you wanted an open inquiry. you wanted public testimony. you wanted a process put in place that gave the president some protection. he has now the similar

protections to what we saw afforded to president clinton in his impeachment inquiry. >> sandra: does he? >> you saw also now and it's clear intelligence and adam schiff conduct the public hearing part and send the report to judiciary where they'll file the actual amendment. >> sandra: david, you want to take that one? >> nancy pelosi talking about an open door process there was a closed door meeting with tim morrison from the nfc. none of the representatives of the president were allowed to be there. it is totally unlike what it was during the ken starr process or leading up to the impeachment of bill clinton. you also by the way had in terms of whether it was a good day for democrats you had tim morrison, a lot of democrats were salivating about his testimony saying he would say something that was going to indict the president coming out and saying i want to be clear, i was not concerned that anything illegal was discussed. so this is evidence of high crimes and misdemeanor?

i don't think it was a good day for democrats. >> juan is right that the republicans got what they wanted. they kept saying it is not transparent. we want it in the open. let's see the public hearing and let's see whether the president's account holds up. the president said the phone was perfect. let's see whether it holds up and passed the smell test. david is right that it goes on behind close doors and we're hearing wildly different accounts. some say tim morrison is resigning because he is opposed to what was -- >> he denied that. >> tim morrison republicans saying with the same meeting saying he said there wasn't a whole lot wrong here. so the very bottom line is let's finally get it out in the public domain. if the democrats want to say the rules of the road are so good, why did it take five weeks to get them out there and why doing all of this in secret

for five weeks? put it out there. >> you have to start an inquiry in a way that allows people to testify without saying i heard it from a previous witness or allow people especially a politician not to showboat for cameras. let's get the facts in place. let's put that on the record. now you have the opportunity for the public to hear. >> the answer is two words, jerry nadler. he was not seen as handling it well in a public hearing. nancy pelosi saw that, most democrats saw that. and they want -- they wanted adam schiff to have complete control of a secret process in which they would get out only the information they wanted to get out. >> bill: i think the most remarkable number yesterday was 194-0 republicans voting in lock step. you even had francis rooney the retiring congressman from southwest florida who said he would support at some measure going forward with impeachment. he held the line as well. i think if you're the white

house looking at it that's the best card i have to play now. >> sure, also because kevin mccarthy came out and among his statements saying the president did nothing impeachable. he didn't say the president didn't do anything wrong or perfect on the phone call and what led up to the aid going to ukraine but it is not reaching the level of high crimes and misdemeanors according to the republicans not only in the house but the senate. >> bill: ratcliffe has been in the interviews. they're arguing policy disputes within the administration. >> policy and style. >> bill: if that's what is brought out in the public hearing, how are the american people going to react? >> i think they'll say it is a political process and we'll have political judgment about whether the president abused the powers of office in order to get dirt on a political opponent by leveraging american military aid to ukraine. saying if you don't give me this aid you don't get meetings at the white house and not

getting the money to defend yourself against russian incursions. i think that's why in those polls you guys were citing this morning you will see the public support even in those swing districts is strong for an inquiry. people want to know the facts. it is not that they're opposed to an inquiry. at this juncture there is also rising support for impeachment. >> sandra: majority in the key six states, a "new york times" poll, majority do oppose this in arizona, florida, michigan, north carolina, pennsylvania, wisconsin, oppose impeachment or removal. >> not an inquiry. important for our audience to be clear this in fact -- in those very states people support an inquiry. overall, let's go overall -- hang on a second. overall in this country there is right now close to a 10-point support for impeachment. >> i would just quote a democratic congressman dan

kildee who you respect as a member and i had him on on saturday and i asked him i said what are your concerns. he was in flint, michigan, the heartland of the u.s. what do your constituents think of this. he said honestly in my hometown of flint right now most folks clearing that yesterday the uaw ratified the agreement ended the strike. that's what people talk about around here. they don't really talk so much about the issue of impeachment. om line most americans aren't obsessed with it the way beltway animals are. >> bill: "the new york times" talks about exactly that. if you live in washington, d.c. you would think it is all but a done deal. if you live in the rest of the 49 states you look at it with different eyes. colin peterson, democrat in northern minnesota his quote voting against the resolution from yesterday. this impeachment process continues to be hopelessly partisan. i have some serious concerns with the way the closed door

depositions were run and skeptical that we'll have a process that's open, transparent and fair. what do you do when you read that? northern minnesota and have a rally, right? >> the president came close to winning minnesota last time and had a rally there a couple weeks ago. another democrat named nancy pelosi had to say you can't move forward on impeachment unless it's bipartisan. they don't have that bipartisan backing. >> something changed. what changed a lot of moderate districts with districts won by trump can live with this and support an inquiry. because i just want to be clear. i was talking to sandra before about the polling. there is support even in those states you were citing for an inquiry. >> sandra: i was trying to let you know that poll was up on the screen as well. >> i wanted to make sure i wasn't being stopped. >> sandra: to your point -- [laughter] i'll change the topic now and

talk about elizabeth warren's $52 trillion price tag on her healthcare plan. released the details of it over 10 years that's the cost. that's a lot of zeros, ed henry. >> a billion here and there and pretty soon you talk about real money. now we're talking a trillion here and there. this is higher price tag than what bernie sanders by $20 trillion. >> sandra: he admits taxes will have to go up. >> bill: sthe is at $52 trillion and swears the middle class won't feel it. are you kidding me? look at the facts. >> you do the math and the committee for responsible federal budget, very nonpartisan committee did the math. they said it is impossible to pay for it no matter how much more you increase taxes on the rich. 100% tax on everybody making over $200,000 a year would not pay for the lower cost $30 trillion plan. you can only do it by massive

tax increases on the middle class. the only way. a 42% value added tax doubling everything you buy. >> bill: how will she go ahead and get around explaining that? >> she can't. one of the people who is going to be arguing against her and her bad math and all of this is joe biden. joe biden and whatever moderate democrats are left running for president because they see this will be an albatross around her neck going into not only the election itself if she becomes a nominee but before that. i think she is going to get beat up a lot by her fellow democrats. >> to be fair to elizabeth warren two things to be said. republicans don't have any plan for dealing with the current high cost of healthcare in the country. and she is arguing with her plan most of this burden would go on people who make more than $50 million in assets that would be pennies on the dollar but pay off most of this and it would lower deductions and

premiums for most americans in a way that would counter the effects of any slight increase in middle class taxes. i think that's what you are going to hear. >> you can't take healthcare away from 163 million americans. >> her argument is you will end up paying less for your healthcare and better healthcare as a result. >> can't be done. >> sandra: the white house responded a few minutes ago. larry kudlow said this. >> in this idea of medicare for all and the so-called green new deal and other proposals i've heard, i don't want to get into politics. policy grounds this would have a devastating, catastrophic effect. probably take out as much as 15 to 20% of our entire gdp. these numbers run upwards of $100 trillion. let's get really serious about this. >> sandra: white house making the case it would destroy the u.s. economy as we know it today. can she win on this?

>> no. the point is i don't think she will make it through the nomination process if she hangs her hat on this. at some point she will have to recognize numbers. the other thing is i don't care about the federal government budget deficit as much as a lot of my fellow conservatives do. on the other hand, what would this do to the deficit? this much money taken out of what the federal government is paying for right now means you would have to get rid of the department of defense, you would have to get rid of all of the social security programs we have just to pay for the healthcare program. >> bill: they'll take it out of easy ed's paycheck. >> that's true. >> we haven't gotten to the green new deal. a trillion here or there. it adds up. >> the bottom line. you game this out. we talk impeachment and nancy pelosi a few months ago saying you can't go this far, holding back, now the left is going all in on impeachment. probably not going to be able

to remove the president from office. you look at what is happening on the campaign trail. $32 trillion, $52 trillion. the man watching and enjoying this is president trump because he may be somebody who is impeached in the house but not removed from office in the senate and then has a nominee whoever it is warren or someone else with plans that are so far left that he can coble together the math. >> he will tar people and say you are a communist and socialist. i listen to this conversation this morning thinking wow, deficits have exploded under this president. exploded in a way that conservatives -- >> why have deficits -- tax cuts, revenue increased because of spending. >> years under obama the conservative mantra was deficits matter. why is the government spending money taxes >> i don't think they should be. >> the second point i would say americans say the number one issue is healthcare and republicans have no plans except to badmouth people who come up with ideas.

>> i agree the president should put a plan on the table. he hasn't put a clear health plan and should do it. he has a big room to run between obamacare and $52 trillion of medicare for all. >> bill: a lot of road. last topic here. "washington examiner". fireside chat on live television, trump says he wants to read the ukraine call transcript to the american people. >> who would broadcast it? interesting to see if the networks would pick it up. >> i stand corrected. >> both my colleagues think there would be coverage. >> the comedy channel. >> sandra: juan. >> everybody is talking about getting the facts out. the point is that the facts are in the transcript.

why do we need all these interpretations of a phone call when we have the phone call? i think that's what the president's point is. >> the bottom line the president thinks he has the facts on his side. >> perfect call and -- >> bill: juan is getting the kidling ready for that fire. >> bill: juan has a sweater he wants to wear. california continues to burn. new fire breaking out near l.a. fire crews may be getting much-needed help today. >> sandra: new york city's mayor bill deblasio weighing in on the cause of death of jeffrey epstein. his surprising remarks in response to that autopsy report next. >> i don't know what the nature of the death was. i just know it should never have happened and we still don't have good answers. you $2,000 every year. y use

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>> sandra: fox news alert as we look at some of the stories we're watching this hour. chicago students back if school today after the teachers union strike ended yesterday. the city and union agreeing to a five-year deal that includes enforceible caps on class sizes. 11 school days were lost to the strike but mayor announced that five of those days will be made

up. meantime dozens of schools closed today in the los angeles area as the new brush fire quickly grows north of the city. there is some good news on that finally. calmer weather has given crews the upper hand on multiple wildfires in the golden state. four people are dead and several other injured at a shooting at a halloween party in northern california. there is no word on the shooter currently. >> i still stand by something doesn't fit here. it just doesn't make sense that the highest profile prisoner in america, someone forgot to guard him. so i want to understand -- everyone wants to understand what really happened. >> bill: we're wondering whether or not the story is changing. bill deblasio agreeing with michael baden there is something fishy about the debt of jeffrey epstein in prison.

we want to point out baden is working on behalf of the brother which is the family of jeffrey epstein. does he have motivation to cast doubt on the medical examiner? >> when you talk about where the financing came from it came from the epstein family. however, let's not forget he is not coming out and saying it is a homicide. he is saying that the evidence that he saw at the autopsy. he was there with the chief medical examiner and the three broken bones in the throat as well as hemorrhaging in the eyes and deep marks around the neck he says are indicative of a homicidal action and not a hanging. so that's important to note. by the way, those findings are not disputed. the evidence of the broken bones was also found by the chief medical examiner and there are plenty of doctors, forensic pathologists that i've seen that also question whether or not the bones, the broken bones mean hanging or

strangulation. and you couple that with the questionable other evidence like the guards sleeping, like nobody checking on epstein for three hours, the forged records. there are question after question as to why. >> bill: there may be a lot of that just perhaps is negligence. late on a friday or saturday night over the weekend. >> bill: early morning hours. the medical examiner backed up their report saying epstein killed himself. no one else was involved. >> after the deblasio statement the office reaffirmed their decision. but barr is looking at this. barr, f.b.i., the i.g. he came out at the time and said he was astonished and said these agencies are looking. we haven't got the report and we don't know what's going on behind closed doors with the f.b.i. i'm hopeful at some point we get answers from the f.b.i. >> sandra: we have to look at some of the pictures from the

autopsy report. dr. baden changing story here this week. he went on hannity last night talking about the difference in how those bones were broken and what that told him. here he is. >> i attended the autopsy. spoke with the medical examiner during the autopsy and noticed with her there was some unusual injuries for a person who was described as having committed suicide by hanging. there were extensive forceful damage to his neck organs. >> sandra: there was always questions about that even initially, right? >> sure. yeah, timing is questionable. why is it come out now? we have been talking about this over the last couple months, though. we have. those facts are not disputed. the m.e. found the same thing. the medical examiner. >> bill: put a fine point on

this. you're right about what baden said. he is casting doubt on the conclusion. he is not saying someone killed epstein. >> he is also saying that when he was there at the autopsy, the chief medical examiner that was responsible did not come to a conclusion. said that it was open and he questions what evidence was found. he also says that there is plenty of other evidence we don't foe about. for example, fingernail scaiption were taken from epstein to see if there was a struggle. they took swabs of the clothing. reasonable questions and guys, i'm a former homicide prosecutor myself and in those autopsies and worked with the medical examiners. if i was in that same place on the same case i would have the exact same questions. >> bill: david bruno, thank you for your time. >> sandra: russian and turkish forces moving into syria as their first joint patrols of the northeast area begin.

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>> bill: the fighting in syria continues at turkish and russian troops move into syria for their first ground controls. rich edson is watching from the state department. what do you know? >> good morning. the turkish and russian forces are now working together in northern syria all in an attempt to try to push mainly kurdish forces out of that region. state department says the secretary of state mike pompeo

spoke with his turkish counterpart yesterday. the foreign minister. pushing turkey to follow through on its promise to establish a safe zone near the syrian/turkey border and allow mainly kurdish forces to withdraw. turkey considers the kurds a threat. the u.s. has worked with kurdish fighters to attack isis. the trump administration has deployed american forces to eastern syria to protect oil fields there. turkey's defense ministry announced it captured 18 syrian government fighters. there are reports they have turned the syrian fighters over to russia. really demonstrating there are several armed factions fighting in this space. >> bill: isis announced a new leader. what do we know? >> we don't know his name or much about him. his real name. we know what his fighting name is. this is days after the united states killed the former isis

leader abu bakr al-baghdadi. they announced that a new leader. analysts say in choosing that name he is suggesting he is a descendant of the tribe of the prophet muhammed that would allow him to rule. isis said america, do not be happy. but the state department has said in killing al-baghdadi, the u.s. has added or taken another isis leader off the battlefield and that campaign will continue. >> bill: rich edson, state department watching that. thank you, sir. >> this is the sad thing for our country. we do this prayerfully with great seriousness, no decision has been made to impeach. that's what the inquiry is about. how we go forward is a test for us to do so worthy of the constitution. worthy of our founders' sacrifice when they established this constitution. >> sandra: house speaker nancy pelosi following yesterday's

big vote to formalize moving forward with the impeachment inquiry. yesterday's resolution setting up rules as the investigation moves on. clearing the way for public hearings. let's bring in our headliner delaware senator chris coons is a democrat senator on the foreign relations committee. welcome. a big day yesterday. and the response we've heard from republicans, they are concerned the president is not going to get a fair shake in this process. will he? >> well, sandra, what i think was important about yesterday's vote in the house was it signals the end of the private phase where there were hearings going on where both republicans and democrats were present but the public didn't know what was being done, who was being heard, what was being said. this will now move to a public impeachment investigation where there are going to be due process protections for the president as well as obviously accountability for the public.

this is very similar to how any civil or criminal trial is conducted in the united states. the grand jury initially investigates in private.with an indictment. if they do the actual trial is held in public. that's the phase the house is one of the things i find a little frustrating at times sandra is that we continue to work in the senate on the people's business taking up and moving bills but frankly impeachment is drowning out everything else that is happening in washington i'm concerned how divided it is. >> bill: on that point, too. when you talk about the division. the vote was stunning when you look at the partisan lines that were drawn even one of the two democrats who voted no pointed that out in a statement he delivered from the state of minnesota. when you look at that, sir, and think about 1998 with 31 democrats voting with republicans for the inquiry approval and you received none of that yesterday. what does that tell you about this process and how people in

the american public will perceive it? >> bill, i think the challenge that the house now faces is what speaker pelosi was just addressing which is they have to conduct this straight down the line as a fair and open investigative process. and if the house ultimately votes articles of impeachment as you know that will come over to the senate where we will sit as if a jury in an impeachment trial. so i'll be careful about how i comment on it but i think it's in the best interests of everyone in the country here for this to be conducted publicly and fairly. the partisan divide of the vote in the house yesterday suggests real skepticism about the possibility of that. >> bill: do you believe that it's been fair thus far? >> both republicans and democrats have been present in the questioning that's been conducted in the house so far. i do think it has been fair.

i now think it will moving to being open to the public which will better insure its fairness going forward. >> sandra: do you think that american support will come along with this? look what we're seeing so far as far as impeachment approval or removal of the president in these six states at least arizona, florida, michigan, north carolina, pennsylvania, wisconsin, a majority in those states oppose that. of course when you look at the inquiry side of things, those who support the impeachment inquiry in those six states a majority do support moving forward with that. where do you think public support will ultimately go in the days and weeks ahead? >> sandra, i think that's an unanswered question. we shouldn't be proceeding with this in the house based on polls. they should be proceeding based on legitimate concerns about the president's actions with regards to ukraine and the upcoming election. if they're able to present compelling evidence you should then see that public opinion

move. i'm continuing to introduce bipartisan legislation to try and move forward in addressing the real issues that confront americans on a daily basis. what i hear in delaware up and down my state is both real concern about president trump's conversation with president zelensky of ukraine, his seeming seeking of dirt against one of his leading democratic rivals for the presidency next year. but we can't shut down the whole federal government over impeachment. we have to keep trying. i think in the senate we're making some progress to address the issues that i hear folks are concerned about. prescription drug prices, the opioid crisis, ways in which we can work together on a bipartisan basis to address gun violence in our schools and places of worship. and to find some bipartisan path on climate change. this last week senator braun and i announced a bipartisan climate solutions caucus with four republicans and four

democrats. so i think it is possible for us to keep working even while there is this inquiry going on in the house. i think, sandra, why those polls reflect a lot of folks don't support it at the moment is because they want us to be solving their problems and addressing their concerns and they worry that we won't be able to do that. >> bill: last question in terms of solving problems. is a $52 trillion medicare for all plan the right way to solve this? >> when it comes to climate changes on the extremes from green new deal to climate denial i hope we have a constructive conversation about things that are inactable. when it comes to healthcare on the extremes from repeal and don't replace with no clear plan and a $52 trillion medicare for all deal that would make more than 100 million americans leave their current private insurance and go on a government plan, i'm hoping we will see in the

democratic presidential primary debates joe biden's plan, which is build on and improve the things about the affordable care act folks like and that work and address the things that need to be fixed. that's what i think is the right path forward. >> bill: i will put you down as a no on $52 trillion. how about $32 trillion, yes or no? >> we have to have ways to pay for any bold proposal that will secure access to quality healthcare in this country. >> is that a yes or no? >> i will gauge which plan for healthcare i end up supporting by whether or not i think there is a path towards also paying for it. i haven't signed off on a medicare for all plan so far. i am looking at them. but what i'm ultimately going to sponsor or support is something that allows us to build on pre-existing condition protection. >> bill: i put you down as a maybe. i tried to strangle it out of you. i hope you come back, senator,

thank you for your time today. chris coons the democratic senator from delaware. >> sandra: thanks. plenty more reaction coming in later in the show as the impeachment battle on capitol hill moves to its next phase. reaction from the white house. stephanie grisham will be joining us on this program next hour. >> bill: before that happens breaking news on the economy and take a look now at the dow. it is moving after the jobs report came out today. 243 to the up side. what the numbers say about our economy and how we're doing across the country. >> sandra: president trump saying goodbye to the big apple taking his permanent residency south. where he says he is headed and why. money man charles payne will break that one down for us next.

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>> bill: jobs report is out now and good news. 128,000 jobs added in october. more than analysts expected. unemployment rate 3.6%. charles payne here the break it down. this is hot on fire. >> phenomenal. you could toss out there was another 42,000 g.m. workers that weren't included and 70,000 census workers. the number was higher. the priefsh two months were revised higher by 95,000. it is hard for me to pick the best part of this. i will say what i love is that in the last three months almost a million americans have come back to the job market. one million people will say you know what? there is opportunity out there. many of them had given up on the labor force, why? because the wages keep going up. you've got a strong labor force, wages are going up, it is just really phenomenal. we're nearing what they would call full employment.

>> sandra: these are all-time highs for the u.s. stock market. dow, s&p nasdaq. >> professional money manageers sitting on a report amount of cash. they didn't believe in this rally. so much more potential. >> bill: wow, here is the tweet from the white house. wow, blow-out jobs number just out. adjusted for revisions, general motors strike 303,000. far greater than expectations, usa rocks. >> everyone can say great, great, politics gets into everything. even financial media these days. unfortunate because it's why so many people aren't in this record breaking market right now but we're situated so well in this country right now. i think it will get better. >> bill: revisions refer back to august and september made higher. >> total of 95,000. >> sandra: what will happen

with all the medicare for all plans floating around, $52 trillion for elizabeth warren. bernie sanders admits taxes will have to go up for the middle class. elizabeth warren says they won't go up by a penny. >> not one penny and this is why. by the way. she has $11 trillion paid out now. four areas of payment. federal government, state government. employers, individuals. she said everyone will stay in the pot. where do you make up the $11 trillion? she will put a 6% surcharge on rich people. new taxes on them. new taxes on financial firms, taxes on giant corporations, more taxes on the top 1% and another thing interesting she will make sure people -- rich people pay these taxes and don't have ways to evade them. she said she consulted -- i

don't know if they gave it a rubber stamp. top economists. mark sandy is one of the well respected economists out there. betsy stevenson under barack obama chief economist. she is putting the names out there. you still have to crunch the numbers. she says $11 trillion is substantially larger than the largest tax cut in the history of america. not only do we not have to pay any extra taxes, we are getting defact owe the biggest tax cut in the history of the country. she worked hard to turn the criticism of her plan into not only i told you so, but the best thing ever. >> bill: thank you, charles. what do you think about the president leaving new york? >> you know what? smart move. brilliant move. brilliant move. quality in life. save on taxes and he is not the first, right? we've seen a lot of new yorkers leave this state and this city.

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>> sandra: there is some financial news today google announcing it will buy fit bit. people think they're getting a work-out when they look at how many steps they have. >> a lot of news about smart watches today. it found that wearable technology smart watches is the number one work-out trend for 2020. it raises security questions. a lot of them seem farfetched. experts say they're possible. your smart watch has more personal on it than your cell

phone. it has a lot to do with your health. how long you sleep, your heart rate, typical running route. you don't want any of that information in the hands of a hacker. if you turn on your fitness tracker when you walk out of your house a hacker could figure out where you live. one of the most interesting and possibly scariest examples comes from researchers from the university of illinois who were able to figure out what a person was typing using the motion sensor on a smart watch. your passwords then could potentially -- >> sandra: are you saying this is satellite technology? >> it is stored in the icloud and attacked to your cell phone. there are ways around it. always use true factor authentication and strong password and, of course, smartphone makers do have some, you know, they have some safety procedures in place as well. you don't want to fear monger.

this is like next level hacking. this is a conversation that comes up every time you talk about smart watches, cybersecurity experts say -- >> sandra: they want your information and as much as possible. >> they want to beat the apple watch as well and corner the market. >> they are more popular. thanks to see you. >> i see the traditional watch on your hand. that's a smart call. elizabeth warren making a trillion dollar splash today. we'll have it for you at the top of the hour. come on back.

>> sandra: brand-new jobs numbers are out for the month of october. the economy added 128,000 jobs last month. that was more than analysts expected and the unemployment rate did tick up to 3.6%. it's close to a 50-year low. in a moment the white house will be here to react to those numbers. press secretary stephanie grisham will join us live. senator elizabeth warren out with her medicare for all plan and the details of it. coming with a hefty price tag, $52 trillion. welcome to a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm sandra smith. >> bill: welcome to friday. bill hemmer, welcome to november as well. the senator releasing her proposal this morning. her campaign claims it will not come with a tax hike on the middle class. 2020 rival already firing back on that claim.

hillary vaughn has the story and live in washington good morning. >> good morning. elizabeth warren finally out with her plan to pay for medicare for all that she says will cost $52 trillion. so when you add all that up what governments, companies, employees already pay for healthcare is about $30 trillion. warren has to come up with an extra $20 million. she is getting it from banks, businesses and billionaires. she says no middle class tax increases and money back in the pockets of american families. larger than the largest tax cut in american history but not for everyone. she proposes a new tax on financial transactions, fee on 40 of the biggest banks in america. brings in about $900 billion under her plan. get 1.6 trillion from a 35% global corporate tax on foreign earnings for u.s. companies.

she will also take six center out of every dollar for net worth above $1 billion and change -- it will bring in 3 billion. if she can't get the full $20 trillion she will have an emergency tax, supplemental employer medicare contributions on extremely high executive compensation and stock buy back rates. she admits her plan won't just cost a lot of money, it will cost jobs, too. two million jobs which warren says is part of the cost for medicare for all and white house economic advisor larry kudlow reacting to her plan this morning on fox business says the cost to the economy will be a lot greater. >> catastrophic effect on the economy. all these numbers we're seeing on incomes for households, on wage increases, on jobs, all these numbers would literally evaporate and so would the

stock market. >> warren is getting money from unlikely places like the pentagon. warren wants to end the overseas contingency operations fund which she says will bring in $800 billion. >> bill: more with sandra. >> sandra: chris wallace is here. good morning. $52 trillion price tag. she has been put in a position where she had to explain how she would possibly pay for the medicare for all plan. $52 trillion. she put it out there says the rich will pay for it and corporations. >> well, the rich will pay directly i suspect everybody will pay indirectly. i'm reminded of a famous senator named russell long back in the 70s who was the chairman of the senate finance committee which wrote all the taxes and he used to say don't tax you, don't tax me, tax that fellow behind the tree. and the argument was well, you know, we don't want to raise you are taxes or mine but we'll raise somebody else's taxes.

there is always a cost to raising taxes. who would have thought bernie sanders $32 trillion medicare for all plan was a bargain? relatively speaking it is compared to elizabeth warren's $52 trillion. and she is talking about trillions of dollars that are going to be taxed on companies in increased payroll taxes saying well the money they were spending on health insurance. it just isn't going to work that way. the very fact that as part of her plan the cost of two million jobs lost. this is an enormously risky plan in terms of both the policy and in terms of the politics. you can see some of her rivals particularly joe biden already jumping all over it saying this is an enormously expensive plan. so many easier to put a public option to increase -- to expand obamacare and go from 80 or 90% coverage to 100% coverage.

i think she will get hammered on this not only by republicans but by some fellow democrats. >> sandra: her plan reads no middle class tax increases. $11 trillion household expenses back in the pockets of american family larger than the largest tax cut in american history and how she frames it in the release of the details of that plan to your point biden's team already hitting back. a new statement from biden for president. the deputy campaign manager says this. the mathematical gym mass particulars in this plan are geared to hiding a simple truth from voters. it is impossible to pay for medicare for all without middle class tax increases. will she be forced to continue to answer that question? she puts this out there as her campaign has been gaining a lot of momentum in the polls. >> she wasn't anxious to put this plan out there and in the last debate if you remember she was asked over and over again are you going to have to raise taxes on the middle class? bernie sanders has been straight forward for a long period of time and said yes, i

will raise taxes on the middle class. what they will save by not having to pay insurance premiums and co-pays and deductibles it will be a net savings. she was saying i'm not going to raise taxes at all on the middle class. when you start taxing companies so enormously it can get passed on in the sense of lower wages to employees, it can get passed on in cutting jobs so some people in this case two million people lose their jobs. i think this is a pretty dicey plan in terms of how it will play politically >> sandra: larry kudlow said it would be catastrophic for the u.s. economy. i'll read a political headline this morning. no model for this. impeachment time crashes into democratic primary. a senate trial could take six senators off the campaign trail as early states prepare to vote. the piece says it threatens to

unravel the campaign plans of some of the top 2020 contenders out there. what happens? >> two aspects of this that are fascinating. one is the fact that as you say, it appears now that the timeline is slipping and that it won't be until just before christmas that if or when but likely when the house votes for impeachment. that means a senate trial will certainly run into the new year. at the very time that people are supposed to be campaigning, democrats in iowa and new hampshire and south carolina and all the other states, you will have an impeachment trial of the sitting president seeking reelection, donald trump. in addition though under the rules of the senate, all of the senators have to be there, sit in their chairs and be silent. not allowed to say anything like jurors. not allowed to ask questions, make statements. six senators still in this race including warren, sanders, two of the three frontrunners, they would be off the campaign trail sitting silently in their chairs and my guess is going

nuts at the idea that all of their rivals are out there campaigning in des moines and they are sitting on the floor of the senate silently. >> sandra: you were watching minute by minute and responding to it the vote that passed on party lines yesterday 232-196. now the public phase of this impeachment battle begins. what does that look like? >> it will be make or break for the democrats in terms of impeachment. they obviously at this point as you saw in the vote yesterday strict party line. there hasn't been big or in some cases any republican defections. some swing in terms of voters, no swing in terms of people voting in the house. they didn't get a single republican vote. they need 20 republicans in the senate for removal. what you'll see is the democrats making their best case bringing up these witnesses that they will have pre-interviewed in the closed door hearings and so far there doesn't seem that size of shift. we haven't seen them talk in public.

that will really tell the tale whether it's a partisan exercise, democrats impeach the president and dies in the senate or if there is a chance this might actually swing some republican votes and make a trial a real trial. >> sandra: that is the question. we've enjoyed having you in new york city chris wallace. i know you need to get back to washington you have "fox news sunday" coming up this weekend and exclusive sit-down with. >> jim himes. the number two democrat on the house intelligence committee. a top white house guest. we can't say who that person is right now. new fox polls on impeachment and the horse race in the democratic side and trump versus a lot of those top democrats. we'll see how things stand as the house begins or continues its formal impeachment process. >> sandra: must-see tv this weekend. thank you. >> i'll miss you guys. a little bit. >> bill: nice to see you. fox news alert out of

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mandatory evacuations are in place for 7500 people. wind gusts up to 35 miles an hour fueled this fast-moving fire. there are 1800 structures in the community of somis. ranchs around here. animals can be held at ventura county fairgrounds. two homes loss. 440 firefighters attacking the blaze. the aerial efforts were stopped twist by someone flying a drone around here. >> our firefighting aerial efforts were hampered by someone flying an unmanned aerial system in the area. a small drone apparently looking at photography of the fire. this created quite a dangerous situation. not only illegal but it hampers our firefighting efforts. >> a woman recorded this video of the fire from inside her house last night as the blaze

scorched acres of land overnight. crews will leave these epic santa ana winds will start to subside by the middle of the day which will help this fire die down. crews believe this fire will eventually fuel out and get no larger than about 12,000 acres. but again this has been a very busy week for fire crews. they have been working hard to try and contain at least 12 wildfires that have been ripping through different parts of the state. fortunately thousands of people have been able to return home. many mandatory evacuations have been lifted. at this point for this area it is unclear when people will be able to come back home because this fire is still going strong. >> bill: thank you, watching that for us today. thank you and good luck to everybody out there. >> sandra: as the impeachment inquiry enters a new phase president trump considering reading a transcript of that july phone call with the president of ukraine in a fireside chat with the american people. white house press secretary

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it was about a process about how we would proceed. it is extremely inclusive of republicans which the classified setting has been as well. and it insures that the ranking has the same time as the chairman does and gives them the opportunity to subpoena. if it goes to judiciary committee the president's counsel is allowed to be present, ask questions and make closing arguments. but i'm worried about this country. this summer as i've said before there were 40 ads against me. move on.org was going after me, too. i'm worried how divided this country is. yesterday's vote doesn't make me feel any better. as this is all unfolding we have intelligence agencies from around the world telling us russia is trying to destabilize

governments around the world. >> sandra: your point about those in those states that are opposed to impeachment, the majority in those six states including yourself, michigan. those that support the impeachment inquiry going forward and being conducted by congress a majority in those states do support that happening. but i hear concern from you about the lack of bipartisanship in that vote yesterday when you look back at history nixon and clinton and there was bipartisan support. how concerned about that are you, congresswoman? >> i talked to a lot of my republican friends. they know how worried i am. we have lots of talks of how to keep this country together. i want to point out in the nixon -- i worked for a republican senator. young in college and doing an internship but bob griffin, who was at that time in republican leadership in the senate as well i flew back with him he called richard nixon and told

him to resign. as the republicans got information they realize he had lied they told him he had to step up and do something. so i think we're in the investigation phase right now. i also think it's very important that these investigations are being made public. i know what the public knows. i'm not part of those committees hearing classified details that would be a danger to our national security. >> sandra: it is important that it's a fair process. >> it has to be a fair process. >> sandra: is it? are you the rules laid out? does it give the president a fair process in all this? kimberly strassel rights about this. it is democrats who made that impossible given the secrecy and one-sided approach. due process is at the heart of america's system of order and liberty and the evidence

democrats are secretly compiling in the basement of the house is already soiled. congresswoman. >> i'm going to disagree with that respectfully. republicans have been included in every hearing the democrats have held. we authorized yesterday the transcripts to be made available. redacted for anything that could be a danger to our national security. i think we all want to see them. republicans have been given -- people are spouting these talking points, republicans -- minority -- democrats had more, which year it was, which one, democrats aren't giving republicans the same amount that the minority had last time. that's not true. and the general counsel of the white house -- republicans are in every one of these meetings and -- >> sandra: will the president get a fair process here? >> yes. and i will be one of those people that works hard to make sure that happens. the american people are demanding it. >> sandra: debbie dingell. appreciate your time this

morning. thank you. >> bill: in a moment here a "time" magazine editor calling for federal hate speech laws, former "time" magazine editor saying president trump might violate them. what's that about? kat timpf has the story.

>> sandra: mark zuckerberg firing back against screenwriter of the social network aaron sorkin. he published a letter in the "new york times" criticizing the facebook ceo for letting politicians post false ads on the platform. sorkin saying the policy is -- zuckerberg quoted a monologue from sorkin's movie "the american president." here is the clip. >> america isn't easy.

america is advanced citizenship. you have to want it bad. it will put up a fight. it is going to say you want free speech? let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil standing center stage and advocating that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours. >> bill: what a clip. >> sandra: facebook and zuckerberg facing growing pressure to change their policy. zuckerberg has been sticking to it. >> bill: more and more these debates are moving to online and moving to technology companies because that's where we're finding our own lives being reflected. my sense is with 13 months to go before a national election we'll see this stuff play out in realtime and we'll see with regard to twitter and the decisions they're making. and facebook going in a different direction. >> sandra: high profile democrats including presidential candidates taking on zuckerberg and facebook on

the issue as well. >> bill: president trump trading new york skyline for florida's sunshine declaring that palm beach will become his primary residence. david lee miller outside the trump tower. what's behind this move? >> bill, new york city has long had a love/hate relationship with donald trump. trump grew up in the modest suburb of queens. eventually settled here in manhattan where he changed the skyline. in order to build trump tower where he now has an apartment he had to tear down a bankrupt department store that angered many new yorkers who wanted him to preserve some of the building's art deco structures. he came to new york's rescue and made the ice rink and revitalize the west side of manhattan by building condos. relations were further strained when new york's district attorney demanded trump hand

over tax returns in the 2016 election. after "the new york times" published trump's decision to change primary residents to palm beach he tweeted out confirmation. it said in part. i cherish new york and the people of new york and always will. despite the fact i pay millions of dollars in city, state and local taxes each year i've been treated badly by political leaders of the city and state. few have been treated worse. mr. trump is not alone here. nearly 64,000 new yorkers moved to florida last year. the primary reason lower taxes. new york's governor andrew cuomo a trump critic reacted swiftly to trump's relocation tweeting out. good riddance. not like donald trump paid taxes anyway. he is all yours, florida. the governor, well, he might be disappointed to learn that the president is going to be visiting new york city this weekend. many new yorkers are also not going to be happy.

that's because of the resulting traffic jams here in mid town. bill. >> bill: david lee miller along fifth avenue. >> sandra: house democrats moving ahead with the impeachment inquiry. what's next step in all of this for the white house? we'll be speaking to white house press secretary stephanie grisham after the break. >> bill: the widow of an nypd officer set to run in the new york marathon honoring her husband's memory by helping others. >> unbelievably nice guy. i'm proud to say he was a friend and a great cop.

>> i think the challenge that the house now faces is what speaker pelosi was just addressing, which is they have to conduct this straight down the line as a fair and open investigative process. but i think it's in the best

interests of everyone in the country here for this to be conducted publicly and fairly. >> bill: democratic senator chris coons from last hour with us here. the white house calling democrats unhinged after a divided house approved rules for the impeachment inquiry just yesterday. stephanie grisham white house press secretary with us now from washington good morning to you. thank you for your time. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> bill: does the president think it's already a done deal that the democrats in the house will vote to impeach him? >> we are still obviously hopeful everybody will come to their senses and realize the president did nothing wrong. but we are prepared for an impeachment to happen, yes. >> bill: you are prepared for an impeachment to happen. >> nancy pelosi has made it very clear the house democrats are going to vote. starting from the beginning with all of their closed-door meetings and the way they have had their selective leaks with witnesses it has been set up to

make -- to impeach the president. it is something we're expecting. we can always hope the democrats will come to their senses. they know the president did nothing wrong and we have so much work to do on behalf of the american people. we're hoping that they will come to their senses and do that. >> bill: how has the president worded the expectation you just described? >> i don't know that he has worded it. i would say as we're preparing in the white house this is what's been shown and when you see nancy pelosi and adam schiff and all the other dems and what they've been saying. they've made their intentions clear. it is pretty obvious to watch them what they're doing and what we should expect. >> bill: listening to your answers it seems as if you have concluded it is a foregone conclusion as well. the president believes that as well how has he described his feelings to you about that potential reality? >> he has described his

feelings to the american people. you look at his twitter feed. kangaroo courtment unjust and unfair. we released the transcript. no quid pro quo. the ukrainian government said they felt absolutely no pressurement aid was eventually released to the ukraine. it stemmed from the president being responsible and not wanting to release money to a country that was known for corruption. this is something i sit with him in meetings all the time. he has concerns about american taxpayer dollars going to countries, especially those that have been known for corruption. he was being responsible and thoughtful with this process the dems are trying to use that against him. >> bill: do you want ukraine to look at vice president not just a vice president in 2016 but a candidate who could oppose him next year? >> i don't know he will be the candidate that opposes him next year. he wants to look at any corruption in any country before american dollars flow to

those countries. >> bill: i was looking at the interview he talked about a fireside chat. is that a serious consideration and if so, how would that happen? >> its i don't know what the logistics would look like. we released the transcript. the president has answered every question, talked to the news media about this over and over again. we're the ones being left out of the process. we're the ones who aren't able to see what people are saying and be able to adequately defend ourselves. >> he suggested he would read the transcript aloud and do it on television. is that a serious consideration? could it happen? >> absolutely. >> bill: when? >> i don't have any timing. anything he says is always in consideration. >> bill: it was his idea? >> yeah, it was his idea. an interview he gave, sure. he has nothing to hide.

i think that's the point that's not getting across. the president did nothing wrong and has nothing to hide. so why wouldn't he read the transcript of a call that was fine? it is already public. to show people the context of what was going on. again the president did absolutely nothing wrong. that phone call was a normal phone call with a foreign leader. >> bill: he told the examiner he won't set up a war room. is that to your disadvantage or suggestion you believe republicans will vote in lock step on this? >> i think that the republicans all know what is happening here and that these are dems angry about the president winning in 2016 trying to make it so he can't win the 2020. a war room as the president said. he is the war room. the difference between clinton and nixon, what people constantly compare us to, is that those two did something wrong. the president has done nothing wrong. at this time he feels confident with the people he has in place. we don't feel the need for a war room and we'll see what happens. >> bill: you will not take part

in any of the proceedings. nothing on document requests or subpoenas? >> for this new phase two? i can't get ahead of it. we don't know what the ground rules are. there are loopholes that have been put in there that would allow schiff to decide if we would be able to cross-examine anyone. again the dems keep moving the goalposts. the rules aren't clear. i can't get into any steps we're going to take yet. >> bill: is it possible there will be some level of cooperation if requested? >> if things are actually open and transparent i imagine we would participate. if they have different rules and move the goalposts all the time it is not a fair process. in the united states you are innocent until proven guilty. now the president is being told he is guilty by the democrats and we're having to prove innocence without knowing any information. that's not okay. >> bill: three more topics. isis announced a new leader. can you assure the american

people the hard fought gains in syria will not be surrendered? >> the president made it very, very clear on sunday that we will continue to keep our pressure on isis. the president has been very definitive with his actions. that was shown last sunday when he directed our military to find, seek and kill out the leader of isis. i can assure you the president is monitoring everything that's going on with the terrorists and isis and the american people are safe there. >> bill: when will you hold a white house briefing? >> wherever it's time. right now we're doing just fine. the president continues to speak to the american people. he continues to speak to the press. so do i. my press team and i are available 24/7. >> bill: we want to hear from you as much as we can to get a sense what is happening behind the scenes. twitter feed is active. is there a plan for a white house briefing with you? >> no plan right now. as with anything in our white house that could change in five minutes. >> bill: or five seconds? >> exactly right.

>> bill: the president says he is leaving new york for florida. and the new good riddance. what is the message from the white house back to the empire state? >> we're not going to waste our time with a governor who would say something like that. that was petty and silly. i want to talk about the jobs numbers if that's possible. >> bill: pretty good numbers. what is your read on that as the revision from august and september was better than most had even expected stephanie? >> the presidents economic agenda is working. everything he is doing is working. adding 128,000 jobs if october is fantastic. since he taken office we've added just about 7 million jobs to the country. despite the stupid impeachment sham from these democrats the president's agenda is working and we continue to work and the american people benefit. >> bill: there is a rally in mississippi.

we'll listen to that. thank you for coming on today. we'll speak again. >> sandra: amanda knox back in the headlines. why the former murder suspect is now writing an advice column. there was an age limit for trick-or-treaters in one virginia town. we'll talk about that next. activate your va refi benefit now and start saving.

ú8 newday's proud to announceates near retheir ows, fastest and easiest refi ever. one call can save you $2000 a year. >> sandra: a former "time" magazine editor calling for a hate speech law saying the president would be in violation if there was one. joining us now national review columnist and fox news contributor kat timpf. saw you tweeting on this. what do you want to say? >> in his column he acknowledges that hate speech is subjective. people have different views of what does and does not

constitute it. he says if we had this law the president might be in violation of it. does he not realize a hate speech law would have to be enacted by the exact same government that is full of president trump supporters? i don't understand it's a common thing we see with liberals who say in the same breath the president and republicans are basically nazis and hateful people and then they will call for laws controlling speech. if i thought that the leader of the government was a nazi and republicans were nazis i wouldn't say in the same breath therefore, i would like to give them control of my speech. he basically argued against the point he was trying to make. >> sandra: then so the excerpt from the "washington post" opinion piece that he wrote he said since world war ii many nations have passed laws to curb the incitement of racial and religious hatred. there is no agreed upon definition what hate speech. it insults people on the basis

of race, religion, or sexual orientation. there is irony in that. want to move on to this chesapeake trick-or-treating law on the age at which they're tapping trick-or-treaters. >> the same city last year that got a heat for the law for the jailing of 13-year-old who went trick-or-treating. they say we fixed that. the age limit is 14 and no jail time. if they expected people critical last year, like myself, to be thrilled by this, no, sorry. i don't want to sound like a lawless anarchist but i don't think the government needs to be involved in which kids will be allowed to ask for candy when. being a child even if you're 15, candy is exciting. you get older it takes more than candy to make you feel alive. you should be allowing kids to hold onto the magic for as long as they can. certainly not legislating against it. >> sandra: that judgment is

difficult especially -- the change looking back on it. we would have preferred we repeal the ordinance rather than revise it. i don't think it's necessary. we haven't had problems in 40 years and all kinds of rules and laws out there that would give the police ample opportunity to act if there was a problem. by the way, if you were over that age there would be a class 4 misdemeanor and max fine of $250. the lowest criminal penalty in virginia, no jail time but still. >> where is a 15-year-old going to get $250. i trick-or-treated until i was 17. i didn't need the government to protect me from wearing a costume and asking for candy. >> sandra: final thoughts. amanda knox is writing a newspaper advice problem about life, love and suffering. >> i actually did a comedy advice show with amanda knox

earlier this year. she was actually pretty good. i'm not going to lie. who i met backstage was her fiance they were married and came out later. look at my hands. i don't have a ring. i can't really judge her for wanting to give advice on relationships. she is doing a better job than i am. >> sandra: interesting perspective. >> trying to be fair. >> sandra: it will be out there. if you want advice from amanda knox. >> who knows if it will be good or bad? it will get clicks and interesting percent -- perspective is interesting. >> bill: thank you, ladies. from tragedy to triumph. how the widow of a new york city police sergeant is using the marathon this weekend to help the families of other fallen heroes. awesome story that you'll get to next. the game doesn't end after that insane buzzer beater.

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>> coming up on "outnumbered." sticker shock as senator elizabeth warren finally has released her medicare for all plan and insists middle class taxes will not go up to cover its staggering cost. reaction from her 2020 democratic rivals and the white house. >> i read the plan. there is that. >> plus president trump taking a page from fdr's book. why he says he might have a fireside chat to defend his phone call with the ukrainian president. >> all that plus our guy in the middle. he is studying up, buttercup. "outnumbered" at the top of the hour. >> bill: thank you, see you in a moment. new york city marathon gets underway sunday. 50,000 people set to run.

the widow of paul tuozzolo will be running. will you be able to do that? >> absolutely. i'm ready, willing and able. >> bill: are you a runner? >> not until i started training for the marathon. >> i want to wish you the best of luck. the cause is right. >> yes. >> bill: tell me about paul >> he was killed november 24, 2016. three years ago on monday following the new york city marathon. he was a fabulous father and amazing husband and there is not a day that goes by that i don't forget about him. >> bill: you have a theme. >> i do. never alone, never forgotten. never forgetting my husband every single day. but never alone to signify my blue family, my family in blue aunts and uncles to my two little boys. never being alone and having my blue family by my side every day, day in and day out.

>> bill: you will have 70 officers running with you sunday. >> approximately 70. they will be jumping in every mile and running alongside me just to represent my family in blue always being there. it will be started off by our chief of department chief monihan and he will be doing the first three with me and from that point on the department is taking over. >> bill: you call this a bit of a physical metaphor for your life. how so? >> a very long, arduous, troublesome road that i've experienced over tragic road that i've experienced over the last three years. this is a fight that i will fight through every single moment. it is just like the fight that i teach my children. we don't fold, we don't quit, we don't back down. we keep going. we might have been dealt a bad hand but it doesn't mean it will stop us. >> bill: at every mile you will

be joined by someone else and you have tens of thousands of new yorkers cheering you on. >> greatest city in the world. >> bill: they come from all over the world for this race. good luck. i admire people like you able to do it. >> bill: i run three miles but 26 forget it. >> anything i can do to bring attention to law enforcement officers and the sacrifice they make every day and our nypd in new york city. >> bill: tell me about the silver shield foundation? >> an organization started by george steinbrenner creating this organization to financially assist fallen officers' children in education funding. every time a law enforcement officer or first responder i really should say passes, money is set aside for those children for their educational needs. >> bill: awesome. good luck. 26.2. >> absolutely. >> bill: our best to you and your family. >> i appreciate it.

>> bill: we will remember paul fondly this weekend. >> most important. >> bill: the marathon is sunday. >> sandra: good luck to her and all the runners this weekend. we'll be watching. senator elizabeth warren releasing her medicare for all plan and how exactly she will pay for it. how big is the price tag? more on that next.

♪ >> sandra: nobody forgets anymore, because her cell phone tells you. winding back this weekend on sunday. we are all going to get an extra hour of sleep. we look forward to that. it happens on a moment too soon. daylight savings has been linked to sleep deprivation and other health issues. a lack of productivity on the job and more. that adds up. 2016 study estimating a total economic loss of more than $33 million across the country, all thanks to the lost hour.

>> bill: [laughs] best story today! >> melissa: we are getting an hour this weekend, to be clear. make sure you show up to work on time. >> bill: that's good news. have a great weekend, everybody. we are now into november as we march on. >> sandra: "outnumbered" starts now. >> melissa: fox news alert, she has a plan. and i we know the cost. elizabeth warren finally releasing the details on a medicare for all plan that comes with a staggering $52 trillion price tag. she insists middle-class americans won't pay an extra penny. as part of her plan, war and intensive at the wealthy and corporations with new taxes. the president's chief economist or economic advisor, larry kudlow, giving it a big thumbs down. >> i think would be devastating to the economy. this idea of medicare for all and the so-called green new deal and other proposals i've heard, i don't want to get into